WILLIAM & HANNAH'S CHILDREN

As far as I can tell, they had four children.  Their son William was born about 1808 and he took over Bryndderwen when his father died.  William never married and on his death on 19th January 1890 aged 82 Bryndderwen passed to his niece Ann Griffiths (nee Hamer) and her husband John.  William is buried at St Michaels.  See snippett in second column below.

William and Hannah's daughter Hannah born 1813 married David Hamer and you will find all her details under Hamer family. 

Evan Evans was born 1820 and died on the 15th June 1821 aged 10 months.  This must have been a very difficult time for the Evans family because Evan died two days before his grandmother Sarah. 

Richard Evans was born 1821 and died 18th April, 1846 aged 27.  Both Evan and Richard are buried with their parents at St Michael's.

William and Hannah's daughter Mary born about 1824 married twice.  Her first husband was Evan Edwards born 1813, died 11th February 1851, aged 39.  Mary and Evan lived at Blaen-y-Glyn, Trefeglwys.  Husband number two was Evan Orels born 1834 and died 2nd November 1909 aged 75.  She would have known Evan Orels for a long time because as a lad aged 16 he worked for her father and appears on the 1851 census living and working at Bryndderwen.  Mary died aged 80 on 17th October 1904 she is buried with her first husband Evan Edwards at St Michael's church.  When Evan Orels died in 1909 he was buried with his brother-in-law William Evans late of Bryndderwen.  Evan Orels lived at Brynllwyn House, Trefeglwys. Both Evan and William were described as faithful Deacons at the Wesleyan Church, Trefeglwys.  Ref: MR/MI/60 Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society. There is also a reference to Evan Orells at Gleiniant, Zoar Chapel, Trefeglwys which reads.

"Presented to the Wesleyan Church, Trefeglwys, by Mr. Evan Orells, January 1901", Bible on pulpit.  Ref: MR/MI/56 Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society.

Different transcriptions for Orels, Orrells, Orells.

 

 

This snippet was taken from the marriage account of Mr and Mrs Bennett and  published in the Newtown and Welshpool Express in June 1874.

 

"The next was the arrival of a waggon drawn by a smart little team, the property of Mr. Evans, of Brynderwen, intended for the use of the band. Then came the hurry and bustle of forming the procession, which was not a little matter - the horses being a trifle "frangy" at frist, being unaccustomed to the noise of the band, an the "taps" on the drum. This little difficulty was soon got over, and the animals soon settled down to their work with all the steadiness of old troopers. The members of the committee and managers of the day's proceedings, beyond wearing matrimonial favours, were conspicious by the activity and earnestness with which they went about their respectives duties".

At the end of the proceedings a vote of thanks was given.

"It may be stated that before parting it was proposed by Mr. Ceiriog Hughes, seconded my Mr. W. Savage, that votes of thanks be given to Mr. Davies, Church farm, and Mr. Evans, Brynderwen for the loan of their teams and waggons. The vote was ably acknowledged by Mr. James Davies".

 

 

Hi thank you for opening this page on the Evans families.  This part of my research was a nightmare and making sense of it was difficult.  There are three Evans families connected to the Hamer family.  David Evans of Redhouse, Trefeglwys as far as I am aware was the father of Ursula Evans who eventually married Thomas Hamer.  Then we have William Evans whose daughter Hannah married David Hamer whose son also called David married Sarah Evans of Oerle.  Therefore, through parenthood and marriage the families of Redhouse, Bryndderwen and Oerle, were linked.  To make everything more difficult there were three William Evans.

The population graph below was taken with permission from http://history.powys.org.uk/school1/llanidloes/trefpop.shtml

My thanks to Gavin for allowing me to use this graph.  Click on the link above to view this very informative site on Powys Victorian History for Schools.

 

REDHOUSE, TREFEGLWYS

My direct line

David Evans c1762 - 17/07/1822

Ursula Evans c1786 -  02/09/1859 (Married Thomas Hamer)

Can you help? Looking for David Evan's parents/grandparents

First, I have the Evans's of Redhouse.  David Evans was born about 1762 he married Sarah Meddins who was born 1756 she was baptised 25th June 1756 at Penstrowed.  At this time, I know of three of their children there may have been more.  My understanding now is that David and Sarah only had daughters.  

Ursula Evans born c1786 apparently married Thomas Hamer.  At this time I have not been able to verify this.  However if this is correct then her details will be covered under Thomas Hamer.

The first daughter I found and able to verify was Margaret and she was born about 1788 and died on the 27th August 1792 aged four, she is buried at St Michaels Church.  Whilst this grave was brought for Margaret, tragically, it was also used for David Hamer, his wife Hannah and their daughter Hannah.  

Mary Evans born about 1796 at Redhouse she married Thomas Kinsey on 15th April 1820.  Thomas was born on 25th March 1773 at Llanidloes and Thomas and Mary had at least five children.  The Kinsey family are documented on the internet therefore I will not be following this link.  Mary and Thomas lived at Maesmawr and generations later members of the Kinsey family still reside there. (My thanks to Lavinia for supplying this information).

David and Sarah Evans are buried in the grave next to their daughter Margaret and the Hamer family at St Michaels. David and Sarah both died at Redhouse.  Sarah died on the 17th June 1821, aged 64 and David died on 17th July, 1822 aged 60.  Ref: MR/MI/60 Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society.

My understanding of the estate of David Evans is that is was left to his assigned son-in-laws, at this time I am still trying to get to grips with this.

The Map below shows Trefeglwys with Bryndderwen towards the top, Red House lower right hand side and Ty Mawr lower left hand side.

BRYNDDERWEN, TREFEGLWYS

My direct Line

William Evans c1783

Hannah Evans c1813 - 09/02/1849 (married David Hamer)

Can you help? Looking for William Evans parents/grandparents, details of William's marriage and can anyone tell me Hannah's maiden name?

William Evans was born 1783 at Carno married to Hannah no surname at this time and no date of marriage.  I understand William and Hannah moved to Bryndderwen about 1820. 

On the 1841 census William aged 55, his wife Hannah aged 60, sons William aged 30, Richard aged 20 and daughter Mary aged 16 where all living at Bryndderwen.  The 1841 census does not give much information and this entry was over two pages the bottom of page 12 and the top of page 13.  Source: HO 107/1436/10

The 1851 census gives far more information and tells us that Bryndderwen had 120 acres.   William and Hannah in addition to having son William living at home were bringing up their grandchildren Ann and David Hamer.  Ann was 6 and David 3 this must have been very tiring for the Evans's because William was 65 and Hannah 70.  On this census Hamer was transcribed as Hamner.  In addition on this census their granddaughter Jane Edwards aged 3 was living with them.  Jane was the daughter of Mary who had left home and was married to Evan Edwards.  What is interesting about this census entry is that Evan Orells was living and working as an agricultural labourer and he was 16 at the time.  Eventually he became Mary's second husband.  This was the last census William appeared on as he died on the 3rd July 1859 at the age of 76.  Source: H.O./2496 (pages 9 and 10).

The big change on the 1861 census is that William Evans the son is now the head of the family his mother Hannah is 85 and his niece Anne Hamer is 16 and his nephew David is 13.  This time Hamer was transcribed as Hammer.  Source: R.G. 9/4246.

Hannah Evans lived until she was 90, died 16th August 1870, and therefore does not appear on the 1871 census.  This census lists William as the head aged 61, his niece Anne Hamer was 26 and the housekeeper.  Hannah is buried in a family grave at St Michael's with her husband William and two of their sons Evan and Richard.  Source: R.G.10/5610.

By the 1881 census, the acreage of Bryndderwen had increased to 140 acres.  William is listed as head aged 73.  The big difference is that Anne Hamer has now married and her husband John Griffiths is listed as Assistant Farmer and nephew-in-law.  Anne and John have two children William aged 8 and Hannah aged 6.  Source: RGH/5482

The map below shows both Bryndderwen lower middle and Oerle top middle.

 

OERLE, TREFEGLWYS

My direct line.

William Evans c1810 - 25/07/1851

Sarah Evans c1850 - 04/05/1927 (married David Hamer)

Can you help? Looking for details of William's birth, marriage details and can anyone tell me Margaret's maiden name?

The first person I can find linked to Oerle is John Evans who was born about 1766 and appears on the 1841 census then a Widower living with William Evans who was possibly his son.  John was married to Elizabeth.  Elizabeth  born about 1763 she died on the 4th June 1829, aged 66 and is buried at St Michael Parish Church.  John died on the 29th July 1845 and is buried with his wife at St Michael's aged 79.  Source: MR/MI/60.

William Evans c1810 appears as head on family on the 1841 and 1851 census.  married to Margaret who upon his death was head of Oerle from 1851 until ().  William and Margaret had the following children;

Thomas c1836

John c1837

Margaret c1839

Elizabeth c1841

Jane c1842

Mary c1847

Sarah c1850

Mary died aged 7 18th June 1854 and is buried with her father at St Michaels Parish Church Trefeglwys.

Sarah married David Hamer 18th March 1871.   She died 4th May 1927 at The Moat, Llandinam at the age of 77 and is buried with her husband at St John the Baptist Carno.

Interesting here is that Oerle was passed to Sarah and her husband David Hamer, especially as they had two sons Thomas and John.

 

Trefeglwys Memorial Hall

Thank you to Mal for providing me with the above photograph, sadly the hall was demolished.  I have written a lot about Trefeglwys but do not have any other photographs so if any one can supply me with more photographs I would be grateful you can contact me on the email address shown below.

 

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