The Hamer family 1700 - 1859

 

 

Page under reconstruction

 

 

This research and journey was at times frustrating and very hard to start however, occasionally a project takes on a life of its own.  I did not know very much about my Hamer family apart from my Nan Margaret Ann Harris (nee Hamer) and my Auntie Gladys there seemed little to tell.  How wrong was I?   This journey led me to the Evans families of Bryndderwen, Oerle and Redhouse, Trefeglwys. 

 

I have now decided July 2008 that the Hamer page should be divided into two, the first page will cover 1700 - 1859 but there will be some overlap with the second page which will cover 1811 - 1970.  The first page covers David, James c1707, David c1739/40 and Thomas c1780 this allows me then to concentrate on the second page starting with David c1811 and continuing with David 1848, William 1870 and Margaret Ann 1899.

 

Through www.genesreunited.co.uk I was contacted by Megan who is the granddaughter of Anne Hamer.  Megan then introduced me to Mal who is the son of Franklin Hamer and together we were able to build a good family tree.  Also through Genes I was contacted by Richard who is the grandson Sarah Edith Hamer and he has supplied me with an account of how harsh his grandmother's life was.  Sarah Edith's generation were a tough bunch very rarely complained and firmly believed when they died they would go to 'heaven'.  The majority of the Hamer's were very religious although some of their behaviour was not always Christian!  After joining the Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society http://home.freeuk.net/montgensoc I was contacted by Martyn who is an absolute treasure and his knowledge and the information he supplied me with has been incredible.  My thanks go to all these knowledgeable people who have made this a truly absorbing hobby.

 

Note:  I have only used peoples first names in order to protect their identity. 

 

NOTE: There are many other families that are linked to the Hamer's including the Kinsey's and the Meddins family however, I have no immediate plans to cover these but you will see their names appear from time to time.  It would also appear that cousins often married cousins.

 

The name Hamer originally came from Lancashire but it appears that Hamer's have lived in Wales since the 1700's.  Transcriptions can show them as Hamer, Hamar, Hamor or Hammer.

 

My direct Line

 

1.    David Hamer

 

2.    James Hamer c1707 - 1785

 

3.    David Hamer 1739/40 - 11th May 1828

 

4.    Thomas Hamer c1776 - 23rd May 1858

 

5.    David Hamer c1811 - 11th January 1848

 

6.    David Hamer 31st March 1848 - 18th November 1920

 

7.    William Hamer 15th February 1870 - 18th November 1960

 

8.    Margaret Ann Hamer born 6th November 1899 my grandmother

 

9.    David Harris 24th May 1925 - 24th January 2003

 

10.  Me

 

 

David Hamer c1682? guessing at this stage

 

 

James Hamer 1707-1785

 

 

James Hamer as far as I can tell had six children

 

Richard, James, David, Samuel, Joseph and Hester.(details to follow)

 

 

David Hamer c1739/40 died 11th May 1828 aged 88

 

David Hamer was the third son of James Hamer and was born c 1739.  David married Susanna Cleaton and they were the parents of my great grandfather x 5, Thomas Hamer, my great grandfather was their fourth child.   Susanna Cleaton was born c1743.

 

David Hamer was described on his marriage licence as a single man and yeoman of Llanllwchaiarn.  He was married by banns at Llandinam 4th February 1766; the Licence was dated 5th February 1766.  His wife Susanna was described on the marriage certificate as a single woman from Llandinam. 

 

David and Susanna had the following children:

 

1.   David 1766/7 who married Sarah Savage 13th February 1794 at Trefeglwys.  His wife Sarah born c1774 and the daughter of John Savage of Bryndderwen.  Sarah's mother was also called Sarah and she was the daughter of Evan Morgan of Llanwnnog.  David and Sarah lived at a property called Weeg (Wig) in Llanwnnog. 

 

2.   Mary Hamer married George Meddins 6th June 1788.  George was baptised 22nd July 1759 at Penstrowed and was the son of Giles Meddins and his wife Ursula.

 

3.   James Hamer born 1772/

 

4.   Thomas Hamer1775/6 - 11th May 1828 as my direct line you will find all his details below.

 

5.   Richard Hamer 5th July 1780 - 2nd May 1851

 

6.   Susanna Hamer baptised 26th August 1783

 

Thomas Hamer, Richard Hamer, Mary Meddins, Susanna Matthews were all mention in their fathers will as was wife Susanna.  Also mention was his granddaughter Mary, then under age and the daughter of Richard Hamer.  His son David Hamer of Weig, Llanwnnog and his son James of Carnedd, Llandinam were also mentioned.  I apologise if this is hard to follow but so is the information that I am trying to make sense of.  David's will was made 21st April 1824, his address then Carnedd, witnesses were John Jones, David James, who was the curate of Llanwnog and Thomas Benjamin.  A codicil dated 26th December 1825.  David died on 11th May 1828 at the age of 88 however the burial details dated 15th May 1828 put his age at 87.  His wife Susanna died 9th January 1826 aged 84 and was buried 14th January 1826 and her aged was given as 83.  David was described as late of Carnedd and Susanna late of Carneth.  David's will was proved 26th October 1828 at Bangor.   Source of death and burial details MR/MI/18 Parish Church of St Llonio, Llandinam.  Other sources provided by Martyn. 

 

For now I am working off information which I struggling to make sense of, therefore I am putting in the information I have worked out first.

 

 

THOMAS HAMER c1775/76 - 23rd May 1858

 

Thomas married Ursula Evans 22nd December 1810 at Trefeglwys.  He was described as a bachelor farmer from Llandinam.  On his marriage licence his address was Redhouse Trefeglwys.  Ursula was the daughter of David and Sarah Evans of Redhouse.  As far as I can tell they had the following children.

 

David c1811/12 my Gt. Gt. Gt. Grandfather

 

Thomas baptised 9th January 1814 at Aberhafesp.  Source: Family History Online.

 

John baptised 8th June 1817 at Aberhafesp.  Source: Family History Online.

 

Sarah baptised 4th July 1819 at Llanllwchaiarn.  Source: IGI/LDS.

 

Richard baptised 26th June 1823 Trefeglwys.  Source: IGI/LDS.

 

Susan baptised 20th June 1821 Trefeglwys

 

Ursula baptised 4th August 1825 at Trefeglwys.  Source: IGI/LDS.

 

James baptised 7th December 1830.  Source: IGI/LDS 

 

1841 census for Wales

 

 

Thomas Hamer c1775/6 - my Gt grandfather  x 5 is listed on the 1841 census.  Occupation then a Farmer address given as Hall in the Parish or Township of Llandinam aged 60.  He is living with his wife Ursula aged 50 born about 1791 and at that time they had six children living at home.

 

John c1816 aged 25

 

Sarah c1819 aged 22

 

Susannah c1821 aged 20

 

Richard c1826 aged 15

 

Ursula c1827 aged 14

 

James c1830 aged 11

 

Living with them were three Agricultural Labourers and one Female Servant.  The farm had 190 acres. Source: HO 107/1436/2

 

1851 census for Wales

 

On the 1851 census Thomas then aged 74 and estimated date of birth then 1777 this information is very different to the 1841 census.  His occupation on this census shown as a Farmer of 190 acres at Llandinam Hall.  Ursula is aged 65 and they have three of their children living at home and their granddaughter Sarah.

 

Sarah aged 31

 

Ursula aged 25

 

James aged 20

 

Sarah aged 9 a scholar and their granddaughter.  Source: HO107/2496.

 

Thomas died on the 23rd May 1858 aged 82 and shares his grave with his wife Ursula who died 2nd September 1859 aged 74.

 

 

 

Page last updated 28th July 2008